05 06 1992 Public Minutes
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THB CORPORATION 01' HB TOWNSHIP 01' ORO
SPECIAL PUBLIC KBBTING
WBDNBSDAY. KAY C. 1992
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7tOO P.M. - COUNCIL CHAKBBRS
TWENTY-SIXTH KBBTING 1991-1994 COUNCIL
The following members of Council were present:
Reeve Robert E. Drury
Deputy Reeve David Caldwell
Councillor Alastair Crawford
Councillor Joanne Crokam
Councillor Leonard Mortson
Also Present Were:
Mr. Rick Jones, Mr. Rex Meadl~y, Mr.
Conrad Boffo, Mr. Allan Wayne, Mr.
Ernie Dryden, Mr. Jim Reisch, Ms.
Vivian Bell, Ms. shirley Woodrow, Mr.
Paul Beckwith, Mr. Rex Meadley, Mr.
Tohl, Mr. Ernie Dryden and One
of the Press.
Reeve Robert E. Drury chaired the meeting.
Reeve Robert E. Drury opened the meeting by explaining to those
present that this Public Meeting was to receive public comments
respect to a proposed Zoning By-Law Amendment, pursuant to
provisions of the Planning Act, 1983, section 34 (12). The
applicant has applied to rezone certain lands described as Part of
Lot 1, Concession 4, (Horseshoe Valley).
To date, the Council of the Corporation of the Township of Oro
not made a decision on this application, other than proceeding to
this Public Meeting. Only after comments are received from the
Public, requested agencies and Township Staff, within the
appropriate time period, will Council make a decision on this
application.
Notice of the Public Meeting was mailed out on April 16, 1992, to
all property owners within 400 feet of the subject lands. Notice
the Public Meeting was also placed in both the Barrie Examiner and
Orillia Packet on April 16, 1992.
Reeve Robert E. Drury then asked the Clerk if there had been any
correspondence received on this matter. The Clerk responded by
indicating that two letters had been received; one from the
Nottawasaga Valley Conservation Authority, stating the area was
outside their jurisdiction and the other from the Simcoe County
District Health unit stating they were not opposed to the
amendments.
The Reeve then stated that those persons present would be afforded
the opportunity of asking questions with respect to the proposed
Amendment. He then turned the meeting over to the Township
Ms. Kris Menzies, to explain the purpose and effect of the
Zoning By-Law Amendment.
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Kris Menzies:
The proponents are proposing a rezoning to
rezone the land described as Part of Lot 1
Concession 4. The property is currently
designated under the Official Plan for
Residential Use and the request is for a
rezoning from Rural to site Specific
General Residential in order to bring into
enforcement that Official Plan Designation
Basically the concept is that an eight lot
single unit Plan of Subdivision is propose
on approximately three and one half
hectares. I believe Mr. Rick Jones from
Jorden and Jones and Mr. Rex Meadley from
C.C. Tatham and Associates are here to giv
more detailed information.
Rick Jones:
This property is within the Horseshoe
Valley Highlands Residential Resort
complex. The site consisting of
approximately ten acres is located on the
East side of ValleyCrest Drive and on the
South boundary is Highland Drive which
forms Part of Lot 4. The development is
really an infill project consisting of
eight lots. The more significant
development feature and really the only
one, involves the extension of Street "A"
from ValleyCrest to service five lots abov
that cul-de-sac roadway.
As Kris has noted, the purpose of this
Public Meeting is to review the impact of
this development plan on the Rezoning By-
Law. The lands are now zoned Rural and
redesignation of Residential General is
being requested. Full compliance with the
zoning provisions of the RG Zone is being
realized with the exception of frontage fo
Lot 7, 8 and perhaps 4. A further request
has been made to the Township to consider
front yard allowances for garages for
several of the lots in consideration of th
topography of the property is quite steep,
which may force garages to be pitched
slightly closer to the front yard to allow
more ready access. We are featuring for
the most part, half acre lots, with the
larger lots being two, three and four. On
an average, the lots sizes are about an
acre in size.
Rex Meadley:
The most significant engineering work that
we have carried out on the Plan is to go t
each proposed lot with the Health unit and
determine an appropriate tile field and
building envelope, which was done last
summer. We wanted to ensure the Health
unit was satisfied with the Plan and as a
result they provided a letter to that
effect. The one road to be constructed as
part of the development which is labelled
Street "A" will be a curb and gutter style
road and will be approximately 8% which
will be consistent with the existing
ValleyCrest Drive road.
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Rex Meadley:
The water supply will be through services
off the existing system on Highland Drive
and on ValleyCrest Drive, a water main wil
be required on street "A". Parkland for
this proposal was included with the overal
Parkland that was provided on the East sid
of the 4th Line, as part of the Horseshoe
Highlands, Phase I & Phase II Development.
We have completed a hydrogeological report
for the development and that has been
submitted and is in the review process,
with the Ministry of the Environment.
Ernie Dryden:
The lots on Concession 4, will you come in
from Concession 4?
Rick Jones:
These lots will front on Highland Drive.
Reeve Drury:
There will be no lots fronting on the 4th.
Ed Toll:
That little cul-de-sac that is right next
to the existing cul-de-sac.
Rick Jones:
It is quite a ways down.
Ed Toll:
Why would a few lots on ValleyCrest Drive
be left rural when everything else is
residential?
Rex Meadley:
There was two lots to be provided in Phase
II, fronting on ValleyCrest Drive. This
area was to be a medium density
development. There was problems getting
approval for that concept. So then it was
decided to join this area up and make it
into low density residential development,
as a separate application from Phase I and
II.
Ed Toll:
The cuI-de sac down the street that has
been switched into the hill, such a great
depth, it looks like a potential land slid
area.
Rex Meadley:
The slopes are stable and that is one of
the reasons we have spent about eight
months with the Health unit in establishin
appropriate building envelopes and tile
field envelopes.
Conrad Boffo:
What is low density?
Rex Meadley:
Low density consists of single family
dwelling units. It is a designation that
normally exists in Hamlets, Estate
Residential and developments such as
Horseshoe. Lot sizes in the By-Law are
1850 for Hamlet size lot. Single family i
extended to three acre lots as well.
Alan wayne:
You are saying those lots are not an acre
in size.
Rex Meadley:
The average overall lot density is 1.1 acr
per lot. Lots 6, 7 and 8 are half acre.
Alan Wayne:
What is the elevation of those three lots?
Rex Meadley:
Deputy Reeve Caldwell:
Rex Meadley:
Deputy Reeve Caldwell:
Rex Meadley:
Councillor Crawford:
Reeve Drury:
Rex Meadley:
Reeve Drury:
Rex Meadley:
Kris Menzies:
Councillor Crawford:
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They are at the top of the hill.
The accesses from the three lots on
Highland Drive, where would they come out
on Highland Drive because there is quite
boulevard in there?
The plan at this time provides for
driveway easement across Lots 6, 7
So there will be one common access
6 for Lot 7 & 8. That is under
consideration by Township Staff and
Lawyers. There is another alternative
where we would cut back that centre is
boulevard and pave the centre.
a
to 8.
into
The Township had been approached by
Post for mail boxes. One of the things
were considering was a kiosk similar to
Sugarbush developments. Would it be
possible to fit that in there or are the
lots too small?
Lots 6, 7 and 8 are half acre size so it
would create a problem in that particular
location but there may be other areas in
Phase I that we could look at.
You realize that we will require
engineering because of the slopes.
Regarding the road, you say it is roughed
in now?
The trees are cleared in the area.
It is the 8% grade that I am a little
concerned with. Has our Road
Superintendent commented on it?
Our concept plan which showed preliminary
road grades was submitted.
Mr. Haughton had an opportunity in the
preliminary comments to bring forth his
concerns and he suggested that it be dea
with at the time of the Subdivision
Agreement stage.
There is just one comment I would like to
make to the general public. We walked
site before we approved it because we
realized there were mistakes made in the
past in Horseshoe with destabilizing
slopes. So just for your information, we
looked at this very carefully before we
allowed this concept to go ahead. The
objections you have with destabilization,
we share your concerns and we are going
try and see that dosn't happen again in
North Oro.
There being no further questions or comments, the Reeve in closing
the meeting, thanked those in attendance for their participation
advised that Council would consider all matters before reaching a
decision. He then advised those present that if they wished to be
notified of the passing of the proposed By-law, they should leave
their name and address with the Clerk.
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MOTION NO.1
Moved by Crokam, seconded by Caldwell
Be it resolved that this Special Public Meeting of Council
(Horseshoe valley, Part of Lot 1, Concession 4) now be adjourned @
7:22 p.m.
Carried
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RE E ROBERT E. DR:
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1ffLERK DARLENE SHOEBRIDGE