12 16 1992 Public Minutes
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SPEeIAL PUBLIC DftING
UDNBSDAY. DZC_1m lS. 1992
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The following members of Council were present:
Reeve Robert E. Drury
Deputy Reeve David Caldwell
Councillor Alastair Crawford
Councillor Joanne Crokam
Councillor Leonard Mortson
staff Present Were:
Mr. Henry Sander, Ms. Kris Menzies, Mr
Ron Watkin
Also Present Were:
Mr. Gary Bell, Mr. Leo Erez, Mr. Harve
Boehm, Mr. Alan Wayne, Mr. Gary Thiess
Mrs. Isabelle Thiess, Mr. Rex Meadle
and one member from the press.
Reeve Robert E. Drury chaired the meeting.
Reeve Robert E. Drury opened the meeting by explaining to thos
present that this Public Meeting was to receive public comments wit
respect to a proposed Zoning By-Law Amendment, pursuant to provision
of the Planning Act, 19B3, section 34 (12). The applicant has applie
to rezone certain lands described as
Part of Lot 21, Concession 9, (NIV).
To date, the Council of the Corporation of the Township of Oro hav
not made a decision on this application, other than proceeding to thi
Public Meeting. Only after comments are received from the Public
requested agencies and Township Staff, within the appropriate tim
period, will Council make a decision on this application.
Notice of the Public Meeting was mailed out on November 27, 1992, t
all property owners within 120 metres of the subject lands. Notice 0
the Public Meeting was also placed in both the Barrie Examiner an
Orillia Packet on November 27, 1992.
Reeve Robert E. Drury then asked the Deputy Clerk if there had bee
any correspondence received on this matter. The Deputy Cler
responded by indicating that correspondence has been received fro
Nottawasaga Valley conservation Authority indicating the propose
Zoning By-Law Amendment is located outside the N. V. C.A. I S area 0
jurisdiction.
The Reeve then stated that those persons present would be afforded th
opportuni ty of asking questions with respect to the proposed
Amendment. He then turned the meeting over to the Township Planner
Ms. Kris Menzies, to explain the purpose and effect of the propose
Zoning By-Law Amendment.
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Kris Menzies:
As the Reeve has mentioned, the Publi
Meeting is being held for Part of Lot 21
Concession 9, in the Township. The propert
is located south of Highway 11 in the 9t
Concession. The purpose of the rezoning i
to afford Council the opportunity to hea
comments from the public prior to making an
recommendation or decision regarding th
particular zoning amendment being requested
The amendment is a rezoning from th
Agricultural Zone to a site specifi
Industrial Zone with a Hold. As the Reeve
has also mentioned, Council has adopted a
Official Plan Amendment which
would re-designate the lands from it
current Agricultural designation to a
Industrial land use designation. Tha
designation is subject to an ontari
Municipal Board Hearing to be held early i
the new year and as yet is not in force an
effect. Due to this, the proponents hav
also requested that this Zoning By-Law b
referred to the Board at the same hearing i
order to afford the Board an opportunity t
look at both the Official Plan Amendment an
the Rezoning in concert with each other
The applicants are coming forth for a publi
meeting under the Planninq Act in order t
allow Council a better opportunity t
provide recommendations through its Planne
to the Board in regard to the disposition 0
the land.
The presentation Mr. Reeve that you ar
going to see tonight by the applicant'
consultant Mr. Gary Bell is going to spea
essentially to not only the public meet in
in regards to this land but Mr. Bell als
represents the land owner to the south, Mr
Boehm and although the public meetin
tonight does not speak to rezoning on Mr
Boehm's land, Mr. Bell, as I understand, i
going to talk to some regard in regards t
the application as a whole. So the publi
meeting and the comments to be received fro
the public tonight are to speak specificall
to the NIV application which is . Lot 21
Concession 9 which is north of the Boeh
property but Mr. Bell may take th
opportunity to explain how, for example
some of the zoning is going to work into th
property to the south because for plannin
purposes it is considered one site.
believe Mr. Bell may want to elaborate.
Mr. Gary Bell:
My name is Gary Bell. I am a Land Us
Planner from Barrie and I am here tonigh
with Mr. Leo Erez and his wife Anna who ar
the owners of the NIV Developments land tha
we are speaking of for the public meeting
That land is north of my arm now on th
large drawing. It's this land through here
It fronts on Highway 11 and goes over to th
Bth Concession road. It borders Mr. Boehm'
land to the south and that's where it wil
obtain its access from Concession 9. A
Planner Menzies mentioned, the Boehm
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property is really part of this project, i
really works together, and the Boeh
property is the south half of this drawing
Mr. Boehm is here as well this evening.
Official Plan Amendment No. 37 designate
all of this area outlined in blue fo
Industrial and it went on to describe th
municipali ty' s intent to generate dr
industrial development on this site No.3
among a number of other sites up and dow
Highway 11. I have read Official PIa
Amendment No. 37 and I support its intent.
I go on from there to look at the details 0
the municipal requirements for developmen
and particular zoning changes and I hav
provided the municipality with a Plannin
Report on the Boehm and NIV lands togethe
and I want to refer to one page of that
The municipality, through its Official Plan
has a number of criteria, a number 0
considerations, for where actual industria
development should occur. Now we in ou
report, it's available to the municipalit
and the public, have addressed all kinds 0
planning matters, agricultural capability
location, the wetlands, the requirement
that you have in your Official Plan t
summarize and I'm going to speak here to th
whole of the project. The area to b
developed is relatively level and the prope
drainage can be easily achieved with som
areas requiring grading and filling. I
detailed look, the zoning used to be her
which was a dividing zoning between the OS
Zone, the Open Space Conservation Zone an
the Agricultural fields. When we obtaine
the detailed mapping, ontario Base Mappin
of the area, we learned that that wasn'
quite correct, it actually shifts. Th
wooded and wet area is along this line her
and so we have moved everything out so tha
the land to be considered under the Zonin
By-law is relatively level and can b
drained and that can be managed through
storm Water Management Report subsequent t
the whole Draft Plan approval process
Access to the project is, as I indicated
through the Boehm portion of the lands t
Concession 9 and this is an interchange wit
Highway 11. It's an important factor of th
municipality's consideration of a
industrial development. Also important an
I had mentioned it earlier, is that the ver
corner right now has both some industria
development, there is an automotiv
industrial use right at the corner in th
crux of the overpass and another five or si
acre parcel to the south of it which i
designated and zoned now for industria
development. So there really is an existin
pocket of industrial development an
planning here and this would move on to th
west of that. The conceptual proj ect i
that there would be an industrial road t
municipal standards here on the property
about the mid point of the entire depth
that crosses the Boehm lands to the north s
it creates a parcel for Mr. Boehm right her
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at the frontage. It moves into the propert
to a depth that allows a reasonable numbe
of wide lots. These lots are eighty metre
wide. zoning approach by the municipalit
might suggest a minimum of sixty metres bu
these could be even bigger lots because 0
the depths involved and it would end in
cul-de-sac somewhere through the middl
portion of the property. The details of ho
long that cul-de-sac will be and how man
lots there will be are a function of anothe
part of the planning process called Draft
Plan approval and we do not know now enoug
about the market conditions to be able t
with confidence tell you what the detaile
loting will be. This is a conceptual pla
pretty well of the full or greatest exten
of development possible and it shows how i
could be done. The municipality in it
planning policy wants to know that sites ar
capable of development under a dry natur
and that would be specified in the Zonin
By-law. We have applied for the Zoning By
law and the zoning By-law that I hav
advanced to the municipality and sent to th
ontario Municipal Board seeks a list,
special list, of those dry industrial use
the municipali ty is contemplating an
intending and if anyone would like any mor
information of the list I would be please
to provide it, it's a longer list. Th
process of achieving the detailed approval
can well accommodate any Heal th Uni
concerns on the property or Ministry 0
Environment concerns. Skelton, Brumwell
the firm I am with, is also an engineerin
firm and I have engineers at the firm do
general nitrate calculation to begin t
understand that the development of thi
property is feasible in these large parcel
based on the M.O.E. requirements of th
Reasonable Use Policy in nitrate loading
and it can be done. We are confident tha
the Health unit concerns are dealt with no
by moving the line back and additiona
Health unit concerns and M.O.E. requirement
can be met on this property.
Finally Mr. Chairman, the Official Pla
requirement prior to zoning is that there i
an understanding that parking, loading
screening and landscaping will b
accommodated. This municipality practise
site Plan Control on all industria
development. That means that th
development of each individual parcel one a
a time or a couple together depending on ho
it happens will be subject to detaile
scrutiny on drainage, lighting, landscaping
garbage collection, site servicing, parking
loading, one at a time so that Official Pla
requirement is already met.
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Councillor Crawford:
Kris Menzies:
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In summary Mr. Chairman, this site presen
itself very well in conformity with yo
Official Plan policies and as a method
implementation of your intentions unde
Official Plan Amendment No. 37. We ha
done adequate site investigation work a
planning work to suggest to you and
recommend that a special zoning be applie
to this site to achieve the dry industri
intended and we have a conceptual plan th
will serve the interests of NIV and Boe
and be a suitable way of getting on with t
Township's industrial developmen
intentions. I would like to point out tha
NIV Developments in this past couple 0
years sought this industrial developme
opportunity. NIV Developments is a
developer of land from Richmond Hill a
City of Orillia and they came looking a
bought this as an opportunity. The Boe
family has had this property for many man
years. Harvey Boehm himself is a stee
worker and interested in steel industrie
and projects and he has also advised me tha
he has an interest and activity now in lo
building and that's the kind of industr
that can make very good use of these larg
blocks of open land and it will put peopl
to work here in Oro Township.
What is the zoning, the Industrial Zone?
What the public meeting spoke to is an M
Hold but the M1 Hold might at the time whe
the public meeting notice went out Mr. Bel
in discussion with the municipality wa
speaking about certain specific provisions
Now there have been accumulative discussion
with the other proponents of OPA 37 and th
municipality is leaning towards a new zon
for the municipality, however that new zon
will have to be contemplated by the Boar
and it will be the Board's decision. If th
Board feels that the new zone is no
appropriate it may look at each individua
site and site specifically zone thos
properties wi th what would have bee
embodied in the new zone anyway. The en
effect if the Board feels that the zoning i
appropriate would be the same but that is
possibility and if the Board feels it i
appropriate will just simply call it M
which is the next one in line.
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Mr. Gary Bell:
Councillor, I am familiar with those zonin
provisions being discussed and I ha
undertaken to ensure that our conceptua
plan respects those. For instance, th
frontage, a minimum frontage has bee
suggested of fifty five metres. Myopinio
is that this land conceptually can b
addressed with eighty metre lots, good wid
lots the nature of actual industria
development is like that.
There being no further questions or comments, the Reeve in closingth
meeting, thanked those in attendance for their participation an
advised that Council would consider all matters before reaching
decision. He then advised those present that if they wished to b
notified of the passing of the proposed By-law, they should leav
their name and address with the Clerk.
MOTION NO.1
Moved by Caldwell, seconded by Crokam
Be it resolved that the Special Public Meeting of Council (Part of Lo
21, Concession 9, NIV) now adjourn @ 7:20 p.m.
Carried.
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DEPUTY CLERK LYNDA AIKEN