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10 19 1994 Sp Public4 Minutes .1 , ~ CORPORA!I:tON OJ' ~ IfOnsB:tP OJ' oaG-lIBDON'lB 8PBC:tAL PUBL:tC Uft:tNG WBDBB8DAY. OCIfOBBR 11. 1114 , '1130 P.K. - COUNC:tL CDlIBBR8 HDn-8:trlJl Uft:tNG 1111-1114 COUNC:tL The following members of Council were present: Mayor Robert E. Drury Deputy Mayor Ian Beard Reeve David Caldwell Deputy Reeve Norman Dalziel Councillor Donald Bell Councillor Alastair Crawford Councillor Joanne Crokam councillor' Walter Dickie Councillor Murray Martin Councillor Leonard Mortson staff Present: Mr. Gary cunnington, Administrator, Kris Menzies, Planner, Andria Leigh, Zoning Administrator L. D. Cotton, Thelma Halfacre, Shirle Woodrow, Neil craig, Lloyd Fletcher, Ralph Hayes, Bonnie Sanderson, Sandra Sanderson, Don Sanderson, Don Pearo, Bruce Hicks, Linda Groves, Brenda Lissets, Bruce Livingston, Dave Burton, David Williams, Bonnie Dewitt Tom McIntyre, Bill Hammond, Marilyn Hammond, Karan Jonescu, George Jonescu, Paul Damy, Bruce Hicks, Stev Weston, Peter Hanney, Ian Rogers, Don Hanney. Mayor Drury and Reeve Caldwell declared a pecuniary interest. The nature being both members are involved in a law suit with the applicant. Mayor Drury vacated the chair to Deputy Mayor Beard. Mayor Drury and Reeve Caldwell left the dias and did not participat in any discussion or vote on any resolution on this application. Also Present Were: .' *" Councillor Martin declåred a pecuniary interest. The nature being that Councillor Martin is promoting the scottish Games to be held 0 the subject lands in 1995. Councillor Martin left the dias. Deputy Mayor Ian Beard chaired the meeting. Deputy Mayor Ian Beard opened the meeting by explaining to those present that this Public Meeting was to receive public comments wit respect to a proposed Zoning By-law Amendment, under section 34 of the Planning Act, R.S.O. 1990 c. P. 13. The applicant has applied to amend the Agricultural Exception Zone on certain lands described as Part of Lot 21 and Part of Lot 22, Concession 8 (Oro). To date, the Council of the Corporation of the Township of Oro- Medonte have not made a decision on this application, other than proceeding to this Public Meeting. only after comments are receive from the Public, requested agencies and Township Staff, within the appropriate time period, will Council make a decision on this application. Notice of the Public Meeting was mailed out on September 29, 1994, to all property owners within 120 metres of the subject lands. Notice of the Public Meeting was also placed in both the Barrie Examiner and orillia Packet on September 29, 1994. ~ - 2 - Deputy Mayor Ian Beard then asked the Clerk if there had been any correspondence received on this matter. The Clerk responded by indicating that 19 letters had been submitted, similar in nature a content stating their support of the application. Several letter were re~d and Council asked that they be provided to review to the public if requested, and that copies be made for Council. The Deputy Mayor then stated that those persons present would be afforded the opport~nity of asking questions w~th respect to the proposed Amendment. He then turned the meet1ng over to the Township Planner, Ms. Kris Menzies, to explain the purpose and effect of the proposed Zoning By-law Amendment. Kris Menzies: Thank you Mr. Deputy Màyor. As the Deputy Mayor has stated, tonights public meeting property is located on Part Lot 21 and 22, Concession 8 in the former Township of Oro. The property is owned by the Burl's Creek Family Event Park and it is more commonly I referred to as the Barrie Automotive Flea Market or the BAFMA lands The property is bounded on the north by Highway 11 and on the east by the 8th Line and I am sure most people here are familiar with th Barrie Automotive Flea Market events which have taken place on the property. e Subject zoning is only on a portion of the property and that included most of the property with the exception of a pond and wooded area which is proposed to remain in its environmental hazard zone. The purpose of the rezoning is in effect to expand the amoun of temporary events which are permitted on the property. Currently there are automotiv~ flea markets permitted in the A2 zone. The name of the zone is not to change. That is, it is to remain in the A2 zone. However, there are several additional events which the applicant is proposing. I will go through that list for you. One potential event is an agricultural fair, an antique show, automotiv flea market, a boat show, craft and hobby show, country festival, vehicle show and a Higþland Games. Currently on the property, the Highland Games is a pe~itted use on the site. It is permitted on temporary basis only and was approved by Council through a temporar use By-law to be allowed to continue for a specified number of years. This By-law, if approved by Council, would allow the Highland Games to continue as an even~ for more years than that. There are also accessory uses which are proposed to be permitted on the property i association with the temporary event. These include: concession booths, temporary occupation of a camp ground and a parking lot. The By-law also foreseås definitions related to what these events are as an example, a definition of what an automotive flea market is, as well as defines what a temporary use is. That definition basically, is that a temporary event can not run more than 9 consecutive days, there must be 3 days lieu time in between that event and the next event and in the aggregate, the event can not ru more that 100 days ~.year. As an example, there will not be an event, as this By-law contemplates, for more than one third of the year, actually a little under one third of the year. Mr. Deputy Mayor, Mr. Ian Rogers, the solicitor for the owner is here and he may wish to address Council and or answer any questions related to the By-law. Deputy Mayor Beard: Thank you. Mr. Rogers? - 3 - Ian Rogers: I thank you Mr. Deputy Mayor. Deputy Mayor Beard: Would you please come to the microphone? better for the other people here. I believe it will be Ian Rogers: Mr. Peter Hanney is here and will like wise be able to answer some questions that I can't field. To go into the history and background would take a whole evening, suffice to say that the flea markets were first held on this site.i 1984. A rezoning, public hearing, Council went through the Plann1n process and the ontario Municipal Board ordered that a By-law be passed which applied to the entire site, the entire property. So theoretically, the vendors could occupy the space. There was a restriction placed on the use of the balance of the land by means 0 a site plan agreement and as some of you know that agreement was no enforced, although, there was an attempt to enforce it as if it wer a By-law. We asked the Court to rule on the validity of it and the site plan agreement was held invalid. The Township appealed and th Court of the Appeal upheld the decision of the lower Court Judge. So that eliminated the site plan. We are asking this time around that a site plan agreement not be imposed on us, but we are quite prepared to work with, work out an operating agreement incorporatin most of the terms regarding hours, dust control, police, and that type of thing. The Highland Games will be the forerunner of the temporary events we have. Some of you may have wondered, as I did, and I didn't have a hand in drafting it, who wanted a prohibition 0 music concerts. Now I don't know whether that can be interpreted 0 . including a pipe band and if it does, I think there will be a lot 0 disappointed Scotch~en because the pipes, the music of the pipe is sweet music to some 'of us with a little Scottish blood in our veins I hope that wasn't the thought. I don't know of any finer sound, that I can think of, some people may disagree with me, than the sound of the bagpipe. I am sure there will be some pipers there. Mr. Kelly, in his wisdom after hearing evidence back in the 1986 hearing, was of the opinion that there would be benefits flowing from the flea market and for many additional temporary events that were eventually to take place. He said, he quoted from a provincia study, which had been done prior to that time which stated that on estimate, approximately a million dollars would be spent in the general area in jobs, hotels, motels, by people coming to these events. Now I don't know if there has been any studies since that time to verify that figure. I think it is fair to say that with additional events that there will be more money spent in the area, with tradesmen, businessmen and people such as Venture Inn Motel will benefit from it. At the same time, Mr. Kelly said in his decision, he said "it may well be that there are other unobjectiona events that would be d~sirable and beneficial to the community that could be held at this location, which would be of a short duration and require no additional permit to ." That is the reason that the reference was made, the inclusion of the other temporary events and that appears in your specific Official Plan Amendment. So as far back as over 8 years ago, it was contemplated by the Hanney family thàt this property would be expanded so that it would become a family event park not just concentrating on flea markets. There will be problems and I don't dispute that the events will be traffic generators and as Council may be aware, there is a proposal now to widen the Highway and the Concession road so that it will accommodate the four lanes of traffic which will ease the problems of access during the event. I have nothing more to add Mr. Deputy Mayor. I certainly encourage Council and I know my clients and the Township, have been at logger heads and we have been in Court more often than I would like to think. . . , I - 4 - Ian Rogers: As I was reviewing my file yesterday, I realized that we have had a least 3 decisions of Courts and Municipal Boards recorded in the Official Reports and for anybody who enjoys reading law reports, they can be pretty dull at best, there is a history, in every case there is a history and background as set out as part of the decision, so I think it would be helpful to get an ~nderlstandi~tg. am certainly pleased to be here in a non-confrontat1ona capac1 y. Deputy Mayor Beard: Do any of the other proponents wish to make any statem7nts bef~re w take any questions? Ok, anyone who wants to ask qu7st1~ns or 1S about to ask questions, I will take them from Counc11 f1rst and whe we finish with the Council I will ask the public. I would ask that you state your name fo~ the record. Council? Councillor Dickie: Thank you Mr. Chairman. Control? Kris is it part of zoning to have site PIa Kris Menzies: This property is zoned agriculture. The standard By-law in the municipality for site Plan Control only contemplates site Plan Control on Industrial and Commercial zones. Not withstanding that, the former Township of Oro, and I believe the former Township of Medonte, but I can't be unequivocable about that, did in some cases choose site specifical¡y to designate some areas which were not in the Industrial or Commercial zones as areas of site Plan Control. My history of the site is not as comprehensive as Mr. Rogers, whether there is site Plan Control on this property or not, I don't know at this moment. I do however, agree with Mr. Rogers that the Court has in effect made the site Plan Control to this date null an void. Deputy Mayor Beard: Any further questions from Council? Any questions from the people here present? step forward and state your name into the mike please. Tom McIntyre: My name is Tom McIntyre and I am certainly part of the history. I would like to ask, I may not have been aware of what has gone on in the last few years but bear with me for a moment. Is this By-law i place controlling the flea market right now? Can I ask you that, i that okay? Kris Menzies: There is a By-law in place controlling the flea market or regulatin the use of the flea market but it is for 2 events only, an automotive flea market and a Highland Games. The purpose of tonigh is to allow Council to hear what public think before they consider this new By-law. Tom McIntyre: Does this By-law that allows for the automotive flea market, is it settled then as to the number of automotive flea markets are allowable, to your knowledge? Kris Menzies: Yes it does. ø - 5 - Tom McIntyre: Ok and how many is that? Kris Menzies: I will have to check for you. Ian Rogers: Two. Tom McIntyre: Does anybody know how many were held last year? There were 3 and there were 3 this year. I guess the point is that the exi~ting By law that you have described has not been enforced. Can I 1nfer that, or am I not inferring it appropriately? Kris Menzies: If I could Mr. Deputy Mayor. The By-law that I just spoke to is what the applicants want to see. They have applied to Council to consider it but Council will not consider it until such time as, the hear what the public has to say about it first. Tom McIntyre: Okay, I guess the point, maybe this isn't questioned if that is, there is an existing By-law in place and it is as you described, I guess maybe this is not a question but a point. Are we going through a process where we are allowing a new By-law and limits and this one hasn't been enforced? That is question one. Can I ask another question? The second one has to do with we are dealing wit this property here, I don't know if any of you have attended the flea market or were at them but 'you must understand that this property is not sufficient to accommodate all the parking for the event. I don't know if you are aware of that. Does this By-law address the fact that other properties are being used for parking includ,ing the property across the road and the property at the corner of'the 8th line, and is that under Council jurisdiction, or is parking an accepted use of other agricultural land and that is the question? I don~t know the answer to but I think that is a question that should be asked. Kris Menzies: Do you want me to a4àress that? Personally, yes I am aware that th flea market parkingis,rnot contained wholly on this map. The new By-law contemplates allowing parking on the Speedway lands, by interpretation. It is my opinion, I have not discussed this with Council, that parking as long as you are not providing structures, is not necessarily a non-permitted use on other types of zones. My opinion in relation to interpretation is you go in, build a parking structure, pave the property, put a ticket kiosk in, you would be required to be in the appropriate zone. Council may have a different feel about that. It is council's call related to if that is appropriate or not. Tom McIntyre: I suppose an additional question to that is that if there is parkin off site and people are being hauled back and forth in some sort of bus/wagon arrangement from off site to on site, is there a liabilit on the Township roads with respect to those people being hauled around? , I - 6 - Deputy Mayor Beard: . bl h e to consult the Townsh' I think in that case you would pro~a ,y, av I Id think lawyer to find out if there is a 11a~111ty there. wou , personally, there wouldn't be but..(1naud1ble). Tom McIntyre: I don't think I have anything further. Deputy Mayor Beard: Thank you very much. Any further questions from the public or council on this. state your name in the mike please. Please Bill Hammond: , B'll Hammond We live on the property that is surround ~~ ~~~:e1:id~s by the .iea market, (Kris,i~dicated proper~y on map) and we went through all the Ontar1o Mun1c1pal ~oard Hear1ng and we were told there was going to be 2 events an~ 11ke Tom ~ay~, they have got 3 and now they are going for 4, st111 not sat1sf1ed. Now we have to put up w~th all summer long, we ~se to have a break f~O the flea market in June to the flea market 1n sep~ember: We don t get that any more. They are going to have someth1ng go1ng on there all the time. We have to put up with the noise, the dirt, d~st, traffic, the whole damn issue and I don't know but I am ~ett1ng da sick and tired of it. I believe they have got plen~y go1ng on bac there and it doesn't stop, it is going on all the t1me. Deputy Mayor Beard: Sir, keep your language to (inaudible), I appreciate your statement Carryon. Bill Hammond: . , It doesn't even stop in the winter. Last winter they had somebody over there, 200 feet from our house, pumping water out of the pond there, taking it up to the race track and pouring it on the race track and making it a track to race snowmobiles. There is no end t it. That is all I have to say. Deputy Mayor Beard: Any further questions from the public? state name. Please come forward and Dave williams: " , My name is Dave williams. Maybe you can clarify some questions. A few years ago when the flea market came into effect, when it moved to Oro there were certain restrictions that were placed on the use of the property. It seemed to revolve around, if I remember correctly, that the vendors etc. should be within 500 feet or whatever of the southçrn most boundary. Over the years this has crept further and further north essentially so that now of course the vendors essentially cover all the property from the southern most boundary right to the (inaudible). What is the status of this property at the moment because originally our understanding when this was proposed for this property was that the vendors would be within a given area o~ the souther boundary. Now of course, it has grown to such an extent that if you look in last weeks auto magazine, the aerial photographs of this property, the whole thing is covered with vendors, which is fine but what is the true status of this property then at this point and time? Mr. McIntyre mentioned it was suppose to be 2 events a year and there have been and some people object to 2 and some people object to 3 and some people have no objection. Could you clarify exactly where the Township stands with regard to the use of this property? - 7 - Kris Menzies: If I could Mr. Deputy Mayor, I will tackle part of that question an I will perhaps let Council tackle the rest of it and I will defer t Mr. Rogers, the solicitor for the applicants if I have any inaccuracies, but I will try and capture this in a nut shell. The ontario Municipal Board held a hearing many yea:s,ago relate~ t this. There were three issues before them, the Off1c1al Plan Wh1Ch is the concept of the event. The zoning which speaks directly to where it takes place. What type of structures and what other uses are there. How far they have to be set back from certain lot lines and the site plan which goes into very great detail, it is almost like a funnelling effect where the OP is the concept. The Zoning By-law is more detailed and the site plan is more detailed in relation to that. The ontario Municipal Board ruled that the entir site shall be zoned for an automotive flea market. They subsequently had a site plan By-law which in effect was to restrict the use of the southern (this map is turned) but the southern most 500 feet from betweén the barn and the race track. The documents I are very specific and they lay with a level of legality. My understanding is that inadvertently, presumably, the board Chairman took a site plan, which is very specific drawings and very specific position in law, and stapled it to the back of the Zoning By-law text. There was an action taken in the Courts in order to determin if a site plan drawing and a zoning By-law text go together. In fact, the Courts found that they do not. If effect, the Court ripped off the site plan from the zoning By-law leaving no drawing on the zoning By-law to show in effect, the 500 feet depth. So my interpretation is the 500 feet no longer exists. The events are permitted to take place over the entire site. Those are some of th Court issues which Mr. Rogers referred to in his opening statement between the municipality and the Courts and the Board and applicant Bill Hammond: So, at this point in time, essentially you can have an automotive flea market with vendors and cars essentially on that whole area. Kris Menzies: ~ And accessory camping and parking, that is correct. Bill Hammond: And down the road, what you are saying is the new proposal that it would be again covering the whole site but for various uses? Kris Menzies: . Yes. That is correct. Bill Hammond: Did I miss something here? Is there a specific number at this poin or would it change from year to year? You almost, you hear these th~ngs from people who don't live here in our area, they very qu1ckly come in and tell us and we live in Oro, talking about one thing or another, so I am curious as to where do we stand the people who live here with regard to any of these other ev~nts that take place? Kris Menzies: Unlike the current By-law which speaks to 2 events in one consecutive year period, I believe is the term, the proposed By-law extends the events as I have already stated them. will allow an event is defined, they define a temporary event but an event can be a maximum of 9 days. The event must cease after 9 days maximum. - 8 - Kris Menzies: There must be a 3 day hiatus where nothing happens and then potentially another event for 9 days can occur. However, over the aggregate, over the 365 day in a year, events can only be 100 days. Theoretically, I suppose, you could have each one of ~hese events happen in one year. You could have one 9 day automot1ve flea marke happen in one year or you could have several automotive flea market happen as long as they don't go over the 9 days, they stop for at , least 3 days and they don't go over 1?0 days per year., The way.th1 By-law is structured is that the app11cant has the cho1ce on wh1ch events to chose. Bill Hammond: Can I make one last question? Who would enforce this By-law, because you know we have had so much aggravation over the years because of this property and enforcing what is suppose to be in place. Who is responsible for this is it the Township, is it the O.P.P. who enforces-it? Deputy Mayor Beard:. , , The Township is responsible for enforcing the By-law and I think that we have all agreed to be starting over from past four or five years. I think we have had a situation where it was sort of nebulou as to the ongoing action and I think that if we get a By-law in place, I think that every member in the Council and the Township at large would expect that it would be enforced by the Township strictly because if this happens and if council takes that position and if people allow it then Council will be in a position to enforc it without other situations developing and we would be in a positio to enforce it without a problem. Ian Rogers: I think that is quite fair Mr. Deputy Mayor. in knowing where Mr. Williams lives. I would be interested Dave williams: I live at the bottom of the 7th. Ian Rogers: The bottom of the 7th?; Thank you. Tom McIntyre: Can I just make a clarification? I can appreciate, like I was around at that time and I know why. Is it okay to explain why it was that way? At the OMB hearing when Mr. Kelly gave his verbal decision he explained why he attached the site plan to the By-law and his point was that he agreed that it was appropriate to have a flea market and that was fine because it brought in a lot of revenu to the Township and etc. He said it was appropriate that the residents have some concerns and it is understandable. So his explanation for attaching the site plan to the By-law was that you do not, it was in the residents, it was a little ironic but it was in the residents best interests and his point was that the site pIa as you explained. It is a very detailed assessment and locates everything and that if it part of the By-law then if it is to be changed, then they would have to go through the public process. Is that correct, they would have to have a public meeting? Whereas he said, in the normal course of events when a site plan is not attached to the By-law, correct me if I am wrong, maybe I don't understand it. But if it not attached to the By-law then the site plan can be changed between the people provoking it and Council and the residents don't have to be informed. Is that correct? , I , . - 9 - Kris Menzies: That is correct. Tom McIntyre: So his point in attaching it to the By-law was so that the resident who were concerned and all these things were defined, would have some input if they elected to change it. Now I agree and interestingly Mr. Rogers comment on this that I have had a chance t read one of the reports in the law and you are right, it can be ver boring and it can be very entertaining in that in the last decision correct me if I am wrong, but there were 3 Judges and 2 upheld the Appeal or whatever. Unknown They were all laYmen. Tom McIntyre: Ok, that is a good point. One who sort of saw the other side, the opposing Judge made the point and I think this was really well said he said there is the law which is what you stated and there is the intent of the law and it is really very interesting and I would encourage you to read ¡to The whole concept of restricting this to the 500 feet was that you would have an area for vendors and you ha an area for camping and you had and area for parking and all the other stuff and it could be with held within this section. However as we have grown and sites plummeted, and now we have parking acros the road and up at the corner and Mr. Kelly made the point that if you restrict the vendors then you restrict everything else that goe hand in hand with it. However, if this is an unrestricted area, then you fill the whole area with vendors and it just snowballs bigger and bigger and bigger. Now I guess my previous point was, and I appreciate your commitment to enforcing the By-law but that hasn't happened in the past and I would hope that it would change i the future and my suggestion would be, it would be nice to see the existing By-law enforced or obeyed to show that the proponents are in good faith. That is my point. Ian Rogers: I am sure the Clerk or if the By-law Enforcement Officer were here would say?, I don't know how many times attended Provincial Police Court in Barrie, defending my client and it was out of that the challenge to the site plan arose. They could never get an injunctio and then fairly recently there were charges laid for a violation of the By-law because 3 events were held contrary to the By-law. I don't know how many times I was in Barrie on that, so I have to say that Council has done its best to enforce the law, however the Cour of Appeal said the site plan is not enforceable. But I am sure onc the air, the dust is cleared, the dust is settled that hopefully Council will be in a position to pass a new By-law and it will be abundantly clear th~t if we overstep the boundaries then there will be a penalty to be paid. Deputy Reeve Dalziel: Thank you Mr. Deputy Mayor. I think it would help too if somebody from Council made a similar statement and I agree with parts of wha Mr. Rogers just said. The Township has endeavoured to apply the By law and the notices were served on the parties that infringed upon that By-law. I have to be extremely careful to what I add here because the fact that this has been a legal matter and this particular aspect of it was one of the factors in the agreement between the TownshiP. and the people who operated the Barrie Flea Market. ' . . - 10 - Larry cotton: Mr. Chairman, I was wondering based on the proposed ~n~rease,in volume of activity suggested for the site, what prov1s1ons, 1f any, are being made for upgrading these Concession lines from the Ridge Road to Highway 11? Deputy Mayor Beard: That road is to be upgraded under the agreement reached with BAFMA on the Settlement. Larry cotton: There are major traffic generations right now from the Ridge Roadt Highway 11 and to southerly edge of the property and there is also, as Mr. McIntyre was mentioning, there are parking areas provided at the Ridge Road and Concession Line 8 and further south toward the north of that but not as far along as the existing property. Are there any suggestions or proposals for improving from the southerly edge of the BAFMA property to the Ridge Road? Deputy Mayor Beard: Does anybody have a comment on that? Deputy Reeve Dalziel: ' Mr. Deputy Mayor and Mr. Rogers, would you see that I say every thin that is correct here? Now it is my understanding that most of the traffic, at least when it is leaving, is when we get the impact, th large quantities are directed towards Highway 11. Larry Cotton: ,,' ~. Mr. Chairman, I wouid have to disagree in part with that. There ar major traffic flows coming off from the 7th and Ridge Road and up t the flea market from the south and also leaving from that direction and going south. That is nothing but dust, having walked that road in the fall. This past fall, working at the flea market, that road cannot sustain the kind of volumes already on it. If we are lookin at a number of new events, there is no way the road will take that kind of beating. I am concerned that public monies may be spent having to upgrade that road down the future based on the experience of increasing the activity. I am certainly not opposed to the increase in activity, particularly the Highland Games. I think it i a wonderful idea but I am concerned that I don't want to see public money being spent to improve the 8th Line. I think it should be dealt with before this By-law is considered any further. Thank you Deputy Mayor Beard: Any further questions or comments? Bill Hammond: I forgot to mention when I was up here before, at the OMB hearing the fight with the zoned agricultural, and after the flea markets events were over with. All the existing trailers and anything that was on the property was suppose to be removed with hope that it would revert back to agriculture. Well as the years go by, there are more buildings, more trailers, everything going up on there, an it is beginning to be an eyesore as well as everything else. They are putting permanent type buildings up on the property. There are more trailers back here that stay all year round. The debris and stuff around there is getting terrible. . ~ " , , - 11 - 1 Deputy Mayor Beard: Thank you Mr. Hammond for those comments. Any further questions? Dave Williams: Yes my name is Dave Williams. Just to make it clear, I enjoy going to the flea market and I think most people do. I just would ho~e that Council takes its time since we have had so much aggravat10n in our Township as a result of previous problems betw7en the owners of the property and Council. I would hope that Counc11 does take its time to work through as many ramifications that is ~umanely possible with the decision that you make so that essent1ally once you have resolved this one ~ay or ~nother. I would l~ke to say at this point that this essent1ally w111,be the en~ of 1t,for all of u both the Council the people who are 1nvolved w1th own1ng the property and to the residents of this Township to ta~e ~he,time,to look through as many considerations as humane~y pos~1ble (1naud1~le to stand up and run for Council. So I would Just 11ke,to say we1gh up these considerations and that you don't rush too qu1ckly 1n approval or disapproval, of course to satisfy this as reasonably as possible. Deputy Mayor Beard: (inaudible) Dave williams: But if you can plan certain compromises, if you take the time, certain compromises can be reached (inaudible) Deputy Mayor Beard: Any further questions or comments on this particular issue? your name please. state steve Weston: My name is Steve Weston. I had the opportunity to assist in the parking this year. The gentleman mentioned earlier that a lot of cars went down Ridge Road. I was there when the cars were leaving the parking sites and granted, there probably was a lot of cars because there were a lot of cars in total there. I would say, and was at the road, I would say 95% of the cars were directed towards the highway. It has been mentioned by some people the financial benefits to the area, I think the benefits of these events goes far beyond just a financial benefit to motels and restaurants in the area. I belong to the Independent Christian Bikers Association and Mr. Hanney and the Barrie Automotive Flea Market have made contributions to our organization and in turn we have used that money to go to high schools and seniors homes and gives us a chance to talk to people and go into jails and that is what our mission is all about. Without the contributions, that he so generously made, we would not be able to do a lot of those things. There being no questions or comments, when being called for the third time, the Deputy Mayor in closing the meeting, thanked those in attendance for their participation and advised that Council woul consider all matters before reaching a decision. He then advised those present that if they wish to be notified of the passing of th proposed By-law, they should leave their name and address with the Clerk. '.,. .t~ '(' -- . ' ",- - 12 - MOTION NO.1 Moved by Dalziel, seconded by Mortson Be it resolved that this Special public Meeting of council P26/94 (part Lot 21 and Part of Lot 22, concession 8,(Oro), now be adjourned @ 8:15 p.m. carried. 1 /1 ii") tJ f::j¡~j..~" I-,~ {¿R1/# DEPUTY MAYOR IAN BEARD -, . .il' l'