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09 07 1994 Sp Public2 Minutes HB CORPORATION 01' HB TO1INSHIP 01' ORO-ltBDOlft'B SPBCIAL PUBLIC KBftING WBDNBSDAY, SBPTBKBBR 1, 1994 (t 1:30 P.M. - COUNCIL CBAKBBRS TWBNTY-NIN'l'II KBftING 1991-1994 COUNCIL The following members of Council were present: Mayor Robert Drury Deputy Mayor Ian Beard Reeve David Caldwell Deputy Reeve Norman Dalziel Councillor Donald Bell Councillor Alastair Crawford Councillor Walter Dickie Councillor Murray Martin Councillor Leonard Mortson Councillor Joanne Crokam staff Present: Kris Menzies, Planner, Gary cunnington, Administrator. Also Present Were: David Bachly, Martin Kimbig, Don P. Hanney, stephen Woodrow, Betty Veitch, Jean Crawford, C. Joyce, Ron Joyce, George Snider, Tom Villeman, D. Broderick. Mayor Robert Drury chaired the meeting. Mayor Robert Drury opened the meeting by explaining to those present that this Public Meeting was to receive public comments with respect to a proposed Official Plan and Zoning By-Law Amendment, pursuant to provisions of the planning Act, section 34, R.S.O. 1990 c. P. 13. The applicant has applied to redesignate certain lands described as Part of Lot 40, Concession 1, (formerly Township of Vespra). To date, the Council of the Corporation of the Township of Oro- Medonte have not made a decision on this application, other than proceeding to this Public Meeting. Only after comments are received from the public, requested agencies and Township Staff, within the appropriate time period, will Council make a decision on this application. Notice of the Public Meeting was mailed out on August 18, 1994, to all property owners within 120 metres of the subject lands. Notice of the Public Meeting was also placed in both the Barrie Examiner and Orillia Packet on August 18, 1994. Mayor Robert Drury then asked the Clerk if there had been any correspondence received on this matter. The Clerk responded by indicating that two letters had been received as follows: 1. N.V.C.A. - no objection as their concerns in association with a tributary of Matheson Creek can be addressed via the Authority's permit process. 2. Hedbern Homes - as owners and developers of Craighurst Estates Subdivision do not support application as it may have potential negative impacts on future residents of the subdivision, in particular dust, noise and visual appearance and does not conform to Official Plan policies. - 2 - In addition, the clerk read correspondence which had been received as part of the preliminary circulation made by the applicant, which were as follows: 1. Ministry of Transportation (April 19, 1994) 2. simcoe County Engineer (January 28, 1994) The Mayor then stated that those persons present would be afforded the opportunity of asking questions with respect to the proposed Official Plan and zoning By-~aw Amendment. H7 then turned the meeting over to the Townsh1p Planner, Ms. Kr1S Menzies, to explain the purpose and effect of the proposed Official Plan and Zoning By-Law Amendment. Kris Menzies: Thank you Mr. Mayor. As the Mayor has stated, the property is located on Part Lot 40, Concession 1, in the former Township of Vespra. The proponent has afforded us of their large scale map of the property. This is Highway 400 (indicated on map) to the west, County Road 22 to the east, the Hedbern Homes property which was discussed in a letter earlier, is located about here (indicated on map) in the former Township of Flos. The C.P. railroad track bounds the property as such and there is a, the C.P. rail property basically angles across Highway 400, I would estimate in and around this area (indicated on map). The proposal before Council this evening, which is subject to tonight's public comment, is for an Official Plan Amendment to redesignate this portion of the property as well as this portion of property (indicated on map) from the current Rural designation to an Industrial designation. The effect of that would be to permit a log home construction business. On the concept plan, the owner has showed the potential location of a saw mill, lumber storage mill and a shop as well as a display court which presumably are to display some of the homes which are available from the owner. In the north part of the property, the intent immediately is to potentially construct a house for a foreman to oversee the property. That is a permitted use in the zoning which would be applicable to this property. There is an environmentally sensitive area, which is identified here in the black (indicated map), it is designated environmental protection and is intended to stay that way. You may have noticed some of the comments from the Ministry of Natural Resources about a creek crossing. There is a proposed road to be located adjacent to the C.P. railroad tracks, which is to cross a small drainage area which is located at the tip of this black area (indicated on map) and that is the area in which the Ministry of Natural Resources was commenting on, in order to have the industrial site located at the back. The proposed zoning is from Rural to M-2 which would allow this type of use to occur. r. Mayor, Miss Susan Miller is here, she is one of the owners of the property and she is available to answer any questions egarding the business. ayor Drury: hank you Kris. Any questions from the public? uestions or comments? Reeve Caldwell. Council members, eeve Caldwell: hank you Mr. Mayor. The letter from Hedbern, through to Kris, efer to a number of sections of the Official Plan, are they eferring to the former Vespra Official Plan? - 3 - Kris Menzies: Yes, I have not had a chance Mr. Reeve, to take a look at that. That is an assumption that I will make. I mean, they are very familiar with the policies up there. I have not checked the letter against the sections of the policy but they are policies, to my recollection, that are contained in there and in fact, the Plamler for the former Vespra Township is here and he may be in a better position to answer that than I am. Reeve Caldwell: Is a residential use allowed in the Vespra zoning? Kris Menzies: Yes, as an accessory use or a secondary use in this particular zone. Councillor Bell: Mr. Mayor, it seems to me the problem here is with the entrance and contradiction to different agencies that seems to be something the owners have to solve is where that entrance is going to be. They are not going to allow the field entrance off the 400. There is a difference of 40 metres there between two agencies. Susan Miller: Actually, what happened was we applied for more usage than what we are going for now and that comment was directed towards our original plan for the property. What you see in front of you, we have the MTO and Mr. Dalziel was there and it is all agreed upon and we have all of the documentation and all of the letters. (inaudible) Councillor Bell: Correct me if I am wrong. I think the MTO said 30 metres from the track and the County Road Engineer said 70 metres from the track. Deputy Reeve Dalziel: The two of them were there together and agreed on the entrance and indicated exactly where. Susan Miller: ell, one of the letters was referring to a plan of more evelopment than what we are going for. He is referring to an pplication or a letter that we had sent him originally with a ifferent proposal, so he was saying that if we were going to go urther than what was proposed on the board there', that we would ave to have a different. ayor Drury: 0 we have the documentation and Kris to support that? ris Menzies: don't, Mr. Mayor from the County Engineer, but I have been in iscussions with him and that is his sentiment to me and we will et those letters. ounci11or Martin: hank you Mr. Mayor, to the Timbersmith representative. Do you ave any qualms with the recommendations to the MTO from Simcoe ounty as to what they say you have to do? I. - 4 - Susan Miller: No, we had a meeting where everybody was together and we discussed what they wanted and they told us what they needed and Councillor Martin: And you are prepared to meet all those? Susan Miller: Yes. councillor Dickie: Thank you Mr. Mayor. Just a clarification, you are not going toward the left turn lane then? Susan Miller: They told us that we didn't require unless we further developed the site. councillor Dickie: And you are not planning to do that? Susan Miller: No. Deputy Reeve Dalziel: Yes, Mr. Mayor, the Hedbern property is way off to the north east of this particular section and with the industrial area as you see on the chart here, there is going to be quite a distance between that area and the first house over in the subdivision. Susan Killer: Also, there is quite a block of trees in Mayor Drury: Hedbern is on the other side of the railway track. Reeve Caldwell: Mr. Mayor, there was some suggestion about a noise and vibration study, who was asked for that, Hedbern or the railway. Kris Menzies: C.P. Reeve Caldwell: Has that been done? Susan Miller: That hasn't been done. Reeve Caldwell: Then why would it need to be done, because of the residents? Susan Miller: I am not sure, but we will have to look at it. -- l. - 5 - . Reeve caldwell: ;t When there is going to be a residential Usually they ask for. t f , dents I a ra;lway, so if it wasn' or res~ , subdivision close to . don't see a rational for it. Mayor Drury: to have a foreman's residence on the Why is it necessary property? susan Miller: That was just something that went with the zoni~g that w7t~e~~ a lying for. We, I don't know, I assume tha~ 1t,goes W1, ,e z~~ing and I don't know whether we will be do1ng 1t and th1S 1S all proposed and will take a couple of year~ becau~e w7 are a small company and we have not a lot of prof1t, so 1t w111 be going slowly. Mayor Drury: I just question residents being in a industrial area. Deputy Reeve Dalziel: My understanding is that he would be protecting,the property. My understanding is that the house would not be bu1lt for a couple of years. councillor crawford: I have no problem with the Hedbern letter because there is quite large property in between which the Official Plan asks for, so I think as far as building on there is concerned. I wouldn't want my money invested where there would not be anybody on site to protect it. There being no further questions or comments, when being called for the third time, the Mayor in closing the meeting, thanked those in attendance for their participation and advised that council would consider all matters before reaching a decision. He then advised those present that if they wished to be notified of the passing of the proposed By-law, they should leave their name and address with the Clerk. MOTION NO.1 Moved by Caldwell, seconded by Martin Be it resolved that this Special Public Meeting of Council (Part of Lot 40, Concession 1, formerly Vespra) now be adjourned @ 7:40 p.m. Carried.