09 20 1995 Sp Public 1 Minutes
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, 7:00
P.M. - COUNC:IL ClWlBImS
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(P41j95)
The following members of Council were present:
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Mayor Ian Beard
Deputy Mayor Murray Martin
Councillor Walter Dickie
Councillor Neil Craig
Councillor Larry Cotton
Councillor Ron Sommers
Absent:
Councillor Don Bell
staff Present:
Gary Cunnington, C.A.O., Mark
stagg, Planner, Andria Leigh,
Zoning Administrator
Also Present Were:
Thelma Halfacre, James Hamilton,
Ralph Engel, Jerry Schnurr, Betty
Schnurr, David White, Bud Arbour,
Ross Harvey.
Mayor Ian Beard chaired the meeting.
Mayor Ian Beard opened the meeting by explaining to those
present that this Public Meeting was to receive public comments
with respect to a proposed Zoning By-Law Amendment, under
provisions of section 34, of the Planning Act. The applicant
has applied to rezone certain lands, Part East Half of Lot 10,
Concession 1, former Township of Oro, to rezone those lands as
described to allow for a temporary use on the above noted
property.
To date, the Council of the corporation of the Township of Oro-
Medonte have not made a decision on this application, other than
proceeding to this Public Meeting. Only after comments are
received from the Public, requested agencies and Township Staff,
within the appropriate time period, will Council make a decision
on this application.
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Notice of the Public Meeting was mailed out on August 31, 1995,
to all property owners within 400 feet of the subject lands.
Notice of the Public Meeting was also placed in both the Barrie
Examiner and Orillia Packet and Times on August 31, 1995.
Mayor Beard then asked the Clerk if there had been any
correspondence received on this matter. The Clerk responded by
indicating that confirmation had been received from the
Nottawasaga Valley Conservation Authority stating they had no
objection.
The Mayor then stated that those persons present would be
afforded the opportunity of asking questions with respect to the
proposed Amendment. He then turned the meeting over to the
Township Planner, Mr. Mark Stagg, to explain the purpose and
effect of the proposed Zoning By-Law Amendment.
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Mark stagg:
The subject property is located east of the City of Barrie and
a short distance south of Highway 11.
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This is a proposal to provide temporary zoning to permit the use
of the subject property by the Barrie Rugby Football Club for
regular games and practices. The property is designated
agriculture on the official plan and zoned agriculture. That
does not permit the use of the land for a rugby football field.
The Official Plan however also has a policy which permits the
temporary use of land in addition to permitted uses that are
regularly allowed, provided of course that they do not totally
conflict with the main ongoing and proper use. This being a
playing field, it is clearly a use that would not conflict with
the continued and eventual use of the land for agricultural
purposes, therefore it fitted perfectly with the policies of the
Official Plan which allowed us recommend to you the temporary
rezoning of this property for a three year period and the
applicant has the right to come back and request a further three
years. Part of the arrangement was that, in recommending this
temporary use, we would seek an agreement between the applicant
and the Township for the use of the said area on a casual basis
by members of the public. I understand that this is agreeable
to the applicant and to the owner. The use at the moment would
probably just be casual use. People could go and kick a ball
around or throw a frizbee or something of that nature.
In addition to the actual use of the area for a playing field,
there is obviously a requirement for a temporary change building
and of course the temporary toilets that would go with that.
I think that is all I need to say right at the moment Mr. Mayor.
Mayor Beard:
Are there any members from the proponents, the people that are
asking for this, are they present, if they wish to make a
statement?
Jim Hamilton:
Sir, my name is Jim Hamilton and I am a member of the Barrie
Rugby Club. with me is Ralph Engle, the president of the Club
and the owner of the property involved, Mr. and Mrs. Schnurr.
I think Mr. stagg has explained our position pretty well.
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We currently have an arrangement with the City of Barrie and we
have been practising for the past number of years at Sunnidale
Park which they are converting to passive land and because of
the squeeze on the properties the last two or three years we
have began to search for fields of our own. Obviously,
purchasing land for a small group is out of line and we, Mr.
stagg has aided us in this compromise we believe that the
advantage of it is that Mr. and Mrs. Schnurr are friends of ours
and we would, as Mr. Stagg indicated in his part, for three
years and we would sincerely hope that this would be a
successful arrangement. It would last for a maximum of six
years and at that point we hope we will be a stronger club and
in a position to make another move. We think this is compatible
with the community. We think it is a good precedent in that you
have made it very easy for us as a group to help ourselves and
Mr. staggs' aid in going through the paper work with us. We
were very apprehensive about trying it and in fact, we had just
about gave up on it when we were told we would need a zoning
change.
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Jim Hamilton:
We are pretty certain we will be successful. We don't think it
is going to cost the community any funds and I think in this day
and age of fiscal restrictions, that is important and I think
the fact that we as a club were willing to undertake the
development and maintenance of our own field for a community
athletic group. So we think we are on pretty solid ground and
at the end of six years we will leave Mr. Schnurr with land that
should be richer in a agricultural sense as it has been
virtually used for that period of time and there are no
permanent structures of any shape or form. As I say, it is an
interim measure that is good for everybody involved.
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Mayor Beard:
Anyone who has questions of the proponent or of Mr. stagg?
Councillor Sommers:
Mr. Mayor, first of all, through to Mark.
involved with here?
How many acres are we
Mark Stagg:
Six or seven acres Councillor Sommers.
councillor Sommers:
Okay. My question is of our C.A.O. and he is not here so, my
next question would be my only concern would be that there is no
liability to the municipality. I don't know the legal content
of this but I assume that between the owner and the applicant
the liability would probably lie with one of them but I just
want to be sure that there was no one who can come back on the
municipality as far as liability goes.
Mark stagg:
I think Mr. Mayor in my conversations with Ms. Broderick on the
matter, we would add it to the schedule of areas that the
Township has in order that we save ourselves harmless from any
damages. In other words, if we are sued, our insurance would
cover us in the normal way that it would anywhere else.
Councillor craig:
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Mr. Chairman, just to let Council know that I did attend the
site with Mr. Schnurr earlier in the year when he was
considering this as far as with Council and I do appreciate the
fact that he has worked and the group have worked with our
planning department and our planning department have, I think,
come up with a workable solution and it wasn't too much red tape
for the Rugby Club and Mr. Schnurr to go through. I am pleased
that the municipality has been of help and as far as the
property goes, I looked at it. The field will be suitable for
those purposes with levelling and grass seeding and I think Mr.
and Mrs. Schnurr should be commended for offering this to the
Rugby Club, to the community and to the citizens. It will be a
good deal for everyone.
councillor Dickie:
Thank you Mr. Mayor, with respect to the liability I think as
Mr. Stagg mentioned about an agreement and I think that should
be dealt with at that time.
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There being no further questions or comments, when being called
for the third time, the Mayor in closing the meeting, thanked
those in attendance for their participation and advised that
Council would consider all matters before reaching a decision.
He then advised those present that if they wished to be notified
of the passing of the proposed By-law, they should leave their
name and address with the Clerk.
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MOTiON NO.1
Moved by Dickie, seconded by Martin
Be it resolved that this Special Public Meeting of Council (East
Half of Lot 10, Concession 1, formerly Township of Oro) now be
adjourned at 7:13 p.m.
Carried.
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