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07 13 1994 Sp Public Minutes . 8 TD CQRPORATIO'Ø 01' TD TOWNSHIP 01' oao-1IBÐONTB 8PBCDL PUBLIC KBBTING 1I'JD)1Ø8œy, JULY 13, 1114 . "11 OS P .K. - COUNCIL CDØBDS H'BNÐ'-POURH KBBTING 1111-1114 COUNCIL The following members of council were present: Mayor Robert E. Drury Deputy Mayor Ian Beard. Deputy Reeve Norman Dalz1el councillor Donald Bell councillor Joanne Crokam councillor Walter Dickie councillor Murray Martin councillor Leonard Mortson staff present: Kris Menzies, Planner, Mr. Gary Cunnington, Administrator. Also Present Were: David Caldwell, Alastair Crawford, Al wrigley, Lloyd Fletcher, Marion Bartholomew, Bruce wiggins, Allen Gilchrist, Peter Hanney, J. D. Henderson, Monika Maizis, Arch Brown, Don P. Hanney, Laura Lee and Allen Blight. Note: Mayor Drury declared a pecuniary interest with this special Public Meeting regarding a application to amend the zoning By-law to allow for a maximum 4 day Highland Games event on Part of Lot 22, Concession 8 (Oro) by B.A.F.M.A. The nature being the above member is involved in a law suit with the owners of the property. Mayor Drury did not take part in the discussion. Deputy Mayor Ian Beard chaired the meeting. Deputy Mayor Beard opened the meeting by explaining to those presen that this Public Meeting was to receive public comments with respec to a proposed zoning By-Law Amendment, pursuant to provisions of th Planning Act, R.S.O.,1990, section 34, P. 13. The applicant has applied to rezone certain lands described as Part of Lot 22, Concession 8, former Township of Oro. To date, the council of the Corporation of the Township of Oro- i Medonte have not made a decision on this application, other than \ proceeding to this Public Meeting. Only after comments are receive' from the Public, requested agencies and Township Staff, within the appropriate time period, will Council make a decision on this application. Notice of the Public Meeting was mailed out on June 23, 1994, to al property owners within 120 metres of the subject lands. Notice of the Public Meeting was also placed in both the Barrie Examiner and orillia Packet and Times on June 23, 1994. Deputy Mayor Beard then asked the Deputy Clerk if there had been an correspondence received on this matter. The Deputy Clerk responded by indicating that three pieces of correspondence had been received all in support of the application. The above mentioned correspondence was received from Stephen sperling, A.J. "Arch" Brown and Alex "Sandy" MacDonald. - 2 - The Deputy Mayor then stated that those persons present would be afforded the opportunity of asking questions with respect to the proposed Amendment. He then turned the meeting over to the Townshi Planner, Ms. Kris Menzies,. to explain the purpose and effect of the proposed zoning By-Law Amendment. Kris Menzies: My name is Kris Menzies and yes, that is scottish. the subje~t property as the Deputy Mayor and the Deputy cl7rk has stated 1S on Part Lot 22, Concession 8 in the former Town~h1p of ~r~. The, proponents are requesting what i~ ~alled a ~1te spec1f1c rezon1n~. What this is, it will allow spec1f1c except10ns to the propert~ 1f, council sees fit to approve the amendment. The purpose of ton1ght meeting is to allow council to hear an~ ~ublic comment ~n.the application before council makes a dec1s1on. More spec1f1cally, th amendment is to request that a portion of the property be allowed t hold a Highland Games once a year during a four day period. I will describe to you a little bit where the events are to take place. This is Highway 11 and this is the eighth concession road (indicate on map), anyone who is familiar with the property, you ma~ know tha there is a lot has been severed some years ago and there 1S a residential house located on that property. The lands are commonly known as the Barrie Automotive Flea Market lands or now Berle's Park, is that correct Mr. Hanney? And there are approximately a little over 100 acres. The Highland Games Event are proposed to take place on the bottom southern portion of the property. This is where the Barrie Automotive Speedway is located in this location (indicated on map). Now, as you may be aware, the property is currently zoned to host two Automotive Flea Markets a year but requests before council by Mr. Hanney, who is the owner of the property, is to also include the ability to have a Highlands Games and Mr. Hanney is here Mr. Deputy Mayor, and he may be in a positio to better explain some of his plans related to the property and a little bit more about what the Highland Games entails. Mr. Hanney: Mr. Deputy Mayor, members of Council and the public, I am glad to see you all out tonight. The Highland Games stems back for many, many years. What we are proposing is the Supreme Games which entai not only dancing but it entails sheep shearing, display of Scottish cattle, scottish Sheep dogs trials, of course the muscle events which they include a large - I call telephone poles, but they are called cabers and they also throw the hammer and the wheat sheaf an then of course we have the mass bands. The band competition is ver la~ge at a Supreme Game because you have the very, very best that th1s Country has and other Countries can provide. They only perfo at the Supreme Games. So it is very important that we have some facility for this type of venue. It use to be held at Molson Park but for whatever reason, they have finally disbanded it there. We have been fortunate enough to be approached to host it on our property. Fr~day~ usually or in the past, has been what they call a ceilidh Wh1Ch 1S a danc7 or a get together of the participants prior to the actua~ games wh1ch take place on the Saturday. They asked me to \ hold 1t for three days so that they could stay over for the Sunday because a lot of them have to travel quite a distance. It was also b~ought to,my attention that it could be possible that we ended up ,1th a hol1day on the Monday and perhaps they would like to extend 1t to the Monday. So that is why we have it labelled as a four day event. Is there anything else that I can add to this? eputy Mayor Beard: s there anything else you wish to answer? -- - 3 - Hr. Hanney: We have lots of parking, ample policing, lots of waterh a little bi of scotch. That is about all that I have. If anyone as any questions. Deputy Mayor Beard: , to ask that next if anybody wants to ask question Yes I was go1ng , t th , K 's please state your name, come 0 e ~¡C~~h~~~~e~t~~e ~~u~ name and ask the question and your response can be put into the record. councillor Martin: Thank you Mr. Deputy Mayor. Don, in connection, you are hosting th Game or the Highland Association? I know I am quite familiar with what is going on there but would you make it clear that the Highlan Association are co-hosting? Hr. Hanney: The Barrie Highland Games is a not for profit organization, it is an association. We are only the providers of the property and the operators of the property. The actual operating of the bands, the operating of the dan~in~ and t~e muscle events,actual~y take place by the scottish Prov1nc1al bod1es. All we do 1S prov1de the facilities. councillor Dickie: Mr. Hanney, you have indicated that there is going to be livestock brought into the area such as sheep for sheep shearing and some Scottish cattle? Where do you propose to hold those or corral those'during the event? Mr. Hanney: I belïeve it is in that patch that is marked with the yellow marker up there (indicated map). Kris, is that, it is in the back part of the field they would be... Kris Menzies: Yes, if I could Councillor Dickie through to Deputy Mayor, this is the heavy events area Mr. Hanney is explaining. Deputy Reeve Dalziel: Mr. Deputy Mayor and Mr. Hanney, I have a question similar to Councillor Dickie and I don't want to see any cross breeding' of these cattle on your property. Your own animals are well contained, I was,concerned about the Highland cattle. Now it is one thing to conta1n sheep, I read recently though that a man was injured by sheep which surprised me but will these Scottish cattle be well contained? Mr. Hanney: Indeed. They are to be contained in a portable corral that is made up of steel pipes. Deputy Reeve Dalziel: I accept that. Secondly, this is to occur 300 odd metres from the south boundary of your property? I can't help but question why tha restriction is there. However, if the restriction is there, do you accept that. - 4 - Mr. Hanney: For this event? Deputy Reeve Dalziel: Yes. Mr. Hanney: Yes. The only other use of the property would be for parking and camping. Deputy Reeve Dalziel: Is Mr. Henderson in the audience? here. I wanted to be sure you were councillor crokam: What do the blue and green areas represent? Mr . Hanney: The blue one represents the bånd competition area where we have the mass bands. That field where you see the blue sticker, it is 500 feet wide and it is 1870 feet long. ,That is all groomed and grasse and they have an area for the drumming and then they have the pipes individually and groups, then they have a mass band parade when all the bands'will parade down the field then turning and back up in front of the bandstand. The green area is where we have designated for the hosting of,the tents for the dancers and the.stage for the dancers and all the people that they have. Deputy Mayor Beard: Are there any further questions from Councilor the public? Councillor Martin? Councillor Martin: your estimate of people with the Scottish Festival people . Hanney: at we have been told, and only been told that they brought in somewhere between 10,000 to 12,000 people the last event at olson's. At Fergus they tell us again, now we can't verify this, hey tell us they have between 25,000 and 30,000. Being Scottish by ature of course, I would like to seethe 30,000. Hopefully we ould have, because we are going to have to go through a learning erm on this as well, I would hope that we would have in 1995 omewhere between the 8,000 and 10,000 people. re there any further questions? . Henderson: f I may make reference to a statement that Don Hanney made a few oments ago with regards to Championship Supreme. To provide you eople with the opportunity of knowing what markets are staging hampionship Supreme events, if I may relate to you the following entres: Fort Erie, Chatham, Camebridge, Maxville, Fergus, Sarnia. ontreal is on the list for the Highland Games but not a L " - 5 - Mr. Henderson: Championship Supreme, which I would think would hold some credibility in reference to the request of Mr. Hanney and also the request of the ontario Highland Games Inc. Barrie to, host the games on Mr. Hanney's property. A further event that is under consideration which should create considerable interest is an organization known as Upper Canada Volunteer Regiments organization. If I may read for a few moments, the aim of this organization is to establish and foster an interes in the military heritage of Canada through re-enactment units which represents specific historical groups from Canadian history, dresse and equipped as accurately as possible to represent the 1st Louisiana Regiment, Company K Confederate, 12th York Battalion of Infantry, 69th Regiment Irish Brigade 1866 and these people give displays, drills and native uniforms. This also could be considere and will be considered to be an adequate addition to the games if w are ina position to host them on the subject property. Are there any questions from persons in the audience with regards t anything I might have said or that Mr. Hanney made reference to? Deputy Reeve Dalziel: Deputy Mayor, there are a certain number of weekends in the summertime. Kempenfest for instance is being held from July 29th t August 1st, do you propose to have your event during that same weekend or.have you predetermined that? Mr. Henderson: The date, sir, has been predetermined, established by the Council for the Highland Games in the Province of ontario. We relinquished the date of July 23, 1994 as we were not able to hold them on the property in question. We have been granted the date of July 22, 1995 and as we can appreciate, there are just so many weekends during the summer, this circuit is extremely busy. The first got underway in Georgetown, Ontario on the 11th of June and the last is the 27th of August. Pretty well every weekend is taken up with a Highland Game or a Festival or a Championship Supreme event. Hr. Brown: I would just like to make a statement. I am a resident of Oro but have a business in Barrie. I was very, very pleased to see the development up here of major attractions because Molson's, although the facilities and so forth, as far as the businesses are concerned in Barrie and area, with the thousands of people that come up from the Golden Horseshoe, don't come any further north. As a matter of fact, we get very little benefit from major activities going on at Molson's. People cherish their parking lot, parking space, they come early and they just don't dare give it up because it often means that ¡ater on they may have to park some distance away. So I am very, very pleased that this is being considered for Oro because I feel it will be a major benefit to the commercial enterprises within the Oro-Barrie area. By the way, thank you very much for that fine paving of the Shanty Bay Road. Deputy Mayor Beard: Any other questions or compliments? Deputy Reeve Dalziel: Particularly the compliments. - . . , . " " .. - 6 - Mr.. Henderson: If I may make reference to two editions of McLean's magazine, aver good bunch of people, each of those list7d, Highland Ga~es in Canada, it is hoped that next year the ~1ghland ~ames w111 b7 held in Oro-Medonte Township and will be so 1ncluded 1n that part1cular edition of McLean's magazine which not only receives overall national but also international attention. Here again, Oro-Medonte Huronia. Deputy Reeve Dalziel: I didn't wear my kilt tonight because I didn't want anybody to feel that I was part of this. There being no further questions or comments, when being called for the third time, the Deputy Mayor in closing the meeting, thanked those in attendance for their participation and advised that counci would consider all the matters before reaching a decision. He then advised those present that if they wished to be.notified of the passing of the proposed By-Law, would they please leave their name and address with the Deputy Clerk. MOTION NO.1 Moved by Dalziel, seconded by Mortson Be it resolved that the Special Public meeting for Part Lot 22, Conc. 8 (Oro) be adjourned @ 7:25 p.m. Carried. J,. ß / . ¡:.. ,AP~.- .' ílÆ~¿'. / DEPUTY MAYOR IAN/BEARD DEPUTY CLERK LYNDA AIKEN