04 05 1988 Council Minutes
THE CORPORATION OF THE TOWNSHIP OF ORO
TUESDAY, APRIL 5, 1988 @ 7:00 P.M. - COUNCIL CHAMBERS
il met this evening pursuant to adjournment at 7:00 p.m.
the following members present~
Reeve Robert E. Drury
Deputy Reeve Thelma Halfacre
Councillor David Burton
Councillor David Caldwell
Councillor Robert Swerdon
o present were: Mr. Stephen Woodrow, Mr. Ron Watkin of
Ainley & Associates, Chris Van Langenhoue,
Maureen Douglas, Michael Douglas, Ron Howel
Gordon Grant, Ted Bigelow, Marjorie Reisch,
Paulette Morrison, Eileen Anderson, Karen
Sanderson, Elaine Bigelow, Gerry Ritch, Jim Rit
Derek Anderson, Ellis Crooks,Garry &
Lillian Campbell, Bruce & Georgina Peacock,
Judi Bolton, Sjack Breg, Ross Gray, David
Levison, Joy Levison, Joyce Scott, Ray Scott,
Jani te Nyenhuis, S. Koole, M. Miller,
Carol Alderdice, Judy Alderdice, Alf
Alderdice, George Morton, Frank Floyd,
Bud Arbour and one member of the press.
Robert E. Drury chaired the meeting.
Robert E. Drury opened the meeting with a prayer.
Disclosure and Declaration of Conflict of Interest
None declared.
Consent Agenda:
Ministry of Municipal Affairs re: O.P. Amendment No. 28
Approval (Sugarbush)
Barrie Gallery Project re: Official Ceremonies
Ministry of Natural Resources re: Livestock Valuers
attending Predator Control Workshop
R.G. Robinson & Associates Ltd. re: Oro Hills Subdivision,
Concrete Road
Robert R. Lockie re: Objection to Official Plan Amendment
Proposal of March 7, 1988 (Shanty Bay)
f) County of Simcoe re: 1988 Levying By-laws
g) Trans Canada Pipelines re: change in responsibility
for TCPL Foreign Crossing
Charles F. Ruttan, Solicitor, confidential correspondence
to David S. White re: By-law No. 88-19
i) Ministry of Natural Resources re: this year's spring flood
and what you can do
j) Michael W. Shain, Solicitor re: confidential correspondence
re: Oro Township vs BAFMA Inc.
Ministry of Natural Resources re: construction on shorelines
Deputations:
8:10 p.m. Mr. Jim Ritch representing a group of
ratepayers from the Shanty Bay area -
spoke to Council with regards to a proposed
By-law which would amend the Township's
Official Plan to allow for residential
expansion to the Hamlet of Shanty Bay
im Ritch: The two things we would like specifically relate
to tonight are water run-off and water purity.
We have had two previous developments in th~
Shanty Bay area and we are still having proolems
with drainage. We are asking and relying upon
Council do give us the information and the
hope that this will not happen again.
im Ritch:
Ritch:
Drury:
Arbour:
Levison:
Watkin:
Miller:
Drury:
Watkin:
Miller:
Drury:
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We've had at least four people complain that
their wells within the last two or three months,
became contaminated. The County is concerned
too as to why this is happening. This causes
us more concern as to what will happen if it
is because of some contamination of the general
area. To put new homes in this area could
cause some horrible results to the people
who are living there now. We are not against
progress and we are really not against the
subdivision per say, we certainly respect the
right of the Developer. But we also think
there are rights of the present home owner
and ratepayers and the people who have been
here for a long time and they are concerned too.
We want to be assured the quality of life we
are use to, is going to remain.
We h~ve two ideas that we would like you to
think about before a decision is made. We are
not looking for extremely large homes in this
subdivision, but please watch the lot size.
The second thing is to look at the quality of
life for the homeowners who are already there.
Can you tell us now how many houses are going
to be built?
Mr. Arbour is here this evening and may be he
can tell us if he has any plans about the size
of the lots, etc. because Council does not have
any of this information at this stage.
There has been no submission for a subdivision.
Where did the rumours about the size of the
development come from? The Planner seemed to
ha.ve a lot of information about the number of
lots at one time, why not now.
What was presented at the public meeting a month
ago was that if the land being designated on
the Arbour property proceeds, then there could be
up to 50 units on that property and that is based
on the standards of the Municipality. The
documents that are before Council are documents
which only provide for the establishment of
a designation which would then allow him to go
ahead do the necessary studies to determine
the appropriate lot size and put in place the
proper protection for concerns such as yours.
The designation would be established first saying
that this could be residential and then the
individual has to prove that it can be done on
that property: that would include drainage,
run off, etc.
Assuming that the application is approved and
the procedures carried out, what type of time
frame are we looking at'before development
will go through?
If it was approved right now, you'd be looking
at least a year providin] things went fairly smooth
would we not Ron?
Yes it would.
Would ail environmental impact studies be made
concerning water, septic, etc. be required before
they went ahead?
Yes.
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C. Van Langenhoue: I would like to see the growth rate of
the hamlet of Shanty Bay proceed at an
amortized rate and the development of
a 50 home subdivision is very large for
the size of Shanty Bay.
Carol Alderdice: We are concerned that this development
is going to proceed and these lots are
going to be sold and built upon and then
there will be a request for more land
to be redesignated..We would like Council
to deal with the drainage problem that
exists now before proceeding with any further
development. Past Council's track record
has not been very good - this is an election
year and who's to say that a new Council
will not come in, be inexperienced in dealing
with these things. We don't feel that people
with an urban life style should be residing
on agricultural land.
Levison: What steps have you considered taking in
order for the neighbouring farmers to farm
their land. I know of injunctions placed
on farmers to shut them down and serve
large penalties on them. '
Drury: This Council has supported the move of the
Right to Farm Legislation of the Province
of Ontario.
Levison: Would you consider inserting in the Subdivis
Agreement a provision to this affect?
Drury: We would obtain legal advise on that and if
feasible, it could be inserted into a
Subdivision Agreement.
Levison: Could you get back to us on that issue?
Drury: Yes we will.
Ritch: At what point do you have to put in sewers
and central water systems? Is the hamlet
of Shanty Bay approaching that point?
Drury:
I would hope that with the proper planning
we will never need sewers in the Township
Oro like there is in Innisfil. That is
why there is no more subdivisions allowed
below the Ridge Road because of the land
there won't allow for the proper drainage.
As for the water, we can ask the Developer to
put water in on~developments that are
under 15,000 square feet per lot.
illor Swerdon: You had mentioned earlier that there were
a couple of contaminated wells. Were
they dug wells, deeped drilled wells?
Ritch: They were deeped drilled wells and that
really causes a problem. We(don't know why
or how much, it just happened last week.
illor Swerdon: The comment about the traffic - Council
was to have the County look into a. 3-way
stop at the corner of the 2nd and Ridge Road.
"?" There is to be group mail boxes at that
corner and also the fact that the registered
mail and parcel mail has to be picked up
at the Milk Store is going to result in
further congestion.
Judy Alderdice:
Councillor Swerdon:
Ray Scott:
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Reeve Drury:
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Reeve Drury:
Carol Alderdice:
Reeve Drury:
Carol Alderdice:
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What difference would it make whether
the wells that are contaminated are
deep or not?
It it is a deep well, that really concerns
me.
We are one of the ones that had our well
tested and the results were very poor.
It is a drilled well about 25 feet deep.
You mentioned that there would be no
more development south of the Ridge Road
because of poor soil conditions. What
about the subdivisions above the Ridge Road?
They are having problems there too.
Getting back to the traffic at the corner,
maybe the parking could be restricted to
just one side of the road?
That's out of our jurisdiction and would
be at the County level.
Many times there are cars parked on both
sides of the road and sometimes you have
to stop and wait until someone moves
before you can pass through the village.
There is no need for parking on both
sides.
Perhaps what the Township should be doing
is talking to the Post Office people
and negotiate where they will be putting
their green boxes and maybe we can get
them away from that corner. That might
help to alleviate the traffic problems
there.
Several years ago the red brick store on
the north side of the road had no parking
signs'directly in front of it. They
were up for a period of time until
someone took them down. Those signs
were probably put up by County Council
and some motion would have to have been
put on the books to have had them erected.
That would probably be beneficial in
having them erected again and seeing
that they stayed up.
You don't know what year that was?
No, I don't.
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4. Reports of Municipal Officers
(a) Fred Haughton, Road Supt. re: Grader, Loader/Backhoe
Upgrading Course
(b) Fred Haughotn, Road Supt. re: Sandy Cunningham
attending a Teleconference for Secretaries
(c) Henry Sander, Treasurer re: Memo regarding Britten
Letter of Credit
5. Communications
(a) Richard LaPlante, Oro District Lions Club re: Meeting
Room for the Oro District Leo Club
(b) George Burnham, P.Eng. re: Letter to David White re:
Sugarbush Water Supply System
(c) G.M. Sernas and Associates Ltd. re: Sugarbush Phase 3
parkland dedication
(d) Mr. Raymond Dubeau re: request for an extension of land
to be purchased by Mr. Dubeau, being Part of Lot 16,
Concession 14
(e) Holly Spacek, Township Planner re: personnel matter
6. Other Business
(a) Various members of Council advised the Administrator/Clerk
about the following issues:
(1) Two complaints from a resident on Sophia Street
concerning dogs running at large;
(2) The garbage contractor was observed by a resident
who criticized the carelessness of the contractor's
collectors in the way they handled garbage when
bags of refuge were accidently dropped on a
Township road and were not properly cleaned-up.
(b) Council again directed the Administrator/Clerk to
advise the Township Solicitor that we are still
waiting for his reply to Council's request concerning
Section 41, Sub (8)of the Planning Act.
(c) Council also decided to defer to a future meeting, any
action on a resolution concerning the purchase of
vacant land.
Motion No. 1
Moved by Burton, seconded by Swerdon
Be it resolved that the minutes of the Regular Meeting held
Monday, March 21, 1988 be adopted as printed and circulated.
Carried.
Motion No. 2
Moved by Halfacre, seconded by Caldwell
Be it resolved that the accounts as presented for the period
ending Tuesday, April 5, 1988 in the amount of $894,145.47
plus payroll for the period ending March 24, 1988 in the amount
of $24,108.85 in accordance with the computer print-out
presented to Council be approved for payment. Carried.
Motion No. 3
Moved by Swerdon, seconded by Burton
Be it resolved that the Road Expenditures for the period
ending April ~, 1988 be accepted as presented and further,
the Treasurer be authorized to issue cheques in the amount
of $50,507.17. Carried.
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Motion No. 4
Moved by Caldwell, seconded by Halfacre
Be it resolved that the recommendations listed on the
Consent Agenda, Item No.5, be approved. Carried.
Motion No. 5
Moved by Burton, seconded by Swerdon
Be it resolved that the Report from Road Superintendent
Fred Haughton with regards to the Grader, Loader/Backhoe
Upgrading Course be received and adopted. Carried.
Motion No. 6
Moved by Halfacre, seconded by Caldwell
Be it resolved that the Memo from Road Superintendent Fred
Haughton concerning Sandy Cunningham attending a Teleconference
for Secretaries to be held at Georgian College on April 27,
1988 be received and adopted. Carried.
Motion No. 7
Moved by Caldwell, seconded by Halfacre
Be it resolved that the Memo from Treasurer Henry Sander
concerning the Britten Letter of Credit be received and
adopted and further the Treasurer be instructed to release
this Letter of Credit. Carried.
Motion No. 8
Moved by Swerdon, seconded by Burton
Be it resolved that the Administrator/Clerk advise the Oro
District Leo Club that they may use either the Committee
Room at the Oro Community Centre Arena or as an alternative,
the Committee Room at the Municipal Building at a cost of
$15.00 per evening and further, that a $50.00 damage
deposit is required for the use of either of these facilities.
Carried.
Motion No. 9
Moved by Halfacre, seconded by Caldwell
Be it resolved that the correspondence from George Burnham
concerning the Sugarbush Water Supply System be reviewed
at the Technical Advisory Committee Meeting and further
the Township Engineer and Solicitor be present at a future
Committee of the Whole Meeting to discuss the ramnifications
of this Agreement. Carried.
Motion No. 10
Moved by Burton, seconded by Swerdon
Be it resolved that the correspondence from G. Mart~n Sernas
concerning Parkland dedication for Sugarbush Phase 3 be
referred to the appropriate staff for a report back to
Council. Carried.
Motion No. 11
Moved by Caldwell, seconded by Burton
Be it resolved that the minutes of the Oro Planning Advisory
Committee Meeting held on Thursday, March 24, 1988 be
received and adoptfd with the deletion of Item #5 except
for the first sentence. Carried.
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Motion No. 12
Moved by Caldwell, seconded by
Be it resolved that Report No.
the Whole Meeting held Monday,
as printed and circulated.
Halfacre
88-5 of the Committee of
March 28, 1988 be adopted
Carried.
Motion No. 13
Moved by Burton, seconded by Swerdon
Be it resolved that Report No. 88-6 of the Special Committee
of the Whole Meeting held on Tuesday, March 29, 1988 be
adopted as printed and circulated. Carried.
Motion No. 14
Moved by Caldwell, seconded by Burotn
Be it resolved that the Township of Oro set aside a reserve
to carry out the renovations at the Oro Community Centre
Arena, the amount to be determined during the 1988 Budget
deliberations.
Recorded vote requested by Councillor Swerdon:
Reeve Drury
Councillor Swerdon
Deputy Reeve Halfacre
Councillor Caldwell
Councillor Burton
yea
yea
yea
yea
yea
Carried.
Motion No. 15
Moved by Halfacre, seconded by Burotn
Be it resolved that the Corporation of the Township of Oro
put in place a completed application to debenture for the
renovations of the Oro Community Centre, Arena if required.
Recorded vote requested by Councillor Burton:
Councillor Swerdon
Deputy Reeve Halfacre
Councillor Caldwell
Councillor Burton
Reeve Drury
Motion No. 16
Moved by Halfacre, seconded by Caldwell
nay
nay
yea
yea
yea
Carried.
Be it resolved that a By-law to Amend By-law No. 88-19
with respect to the sale of Lots 2, 3, 4 and 5, Plan 1145
be introduced and read a first and second time and
numbered By-law No. 88-31. Carried.
That By-law No. 88-31 be read a third time and finally
passed, be engrossed by the Clerk, signed and sealed by
the Reeve. Carried.
Motion No: 17
Moved by Burton, seconded by Caldwell
Be it resolved that a By-law to Provide for the renovations
of the Oro Community Centre and Arena be introduced and
read a first and second time and numbered By-law No. 88-32.
Carried.
That By-law No. 88-32 be read a third time and finally passed,
be engrossed by the Clerk, signed and sealed by the Reeve.
Recorded vote requested by Councillor Swerdon:
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Councillor Swerdon
Reeve Drury
Councillor Caldwell
Councillor Burton
Deputy Reeve Halfacre
Motion No. 18
nay
yea
yea
yea
nay
Carried.
Moved by Burton, seconded by Halfacre
Be it resolved that the proposed Official Plan Amendment
to allow for the future expansion of Shanty Bay be referred
back to Township Staff for further study and review:
specifically Council would like to see detailed plans
of any proposals for development of this area.
Councillor Burton requested a recorded vote:
Councillor Burton
Councillor Swerdon
Councillor Caldwell
Reeve Drury
Deputy Reeve Halfacre
yea
yea
yea
yea
yea
Carried.
Motion No. 19
Moved by Halfacre, seconded by Caldwell
Be it resolved that Council approve of the granting of an
extension on the Offer to Purchase submitted by Mr. Raymond
Dubeau until the end of May, on property described as
Part Lot 16, Concession 14 (5.1 acres). Carried.
Motion No. 20
Moved by Burton, seconded by Swerdon
Be it resolved that the resignation of Township Planner
Holly Spacek dated AprilS, 1988 be accepted with regret.
Carried.
Motion No. 21
Moved by Halfacre, seconded by Caldwell
Be it resolved that the Administrator/Clerk be authorized
to advertise for a Township Planner in the Barrie and Orillia
Newspapers, the Globe and Mail, and in MUnicipal World.
Carried.
Motion No. 22
Moved by Burton, seconded by Swerdon
Be it resolved that a By-law to Confirm the Proceedings
of Council be introduced and read a first and second time
and numbered By-law No. 88-34. Carried.
That By-law No. 88-34 be read a third time and finally
passed, be engrossed by the Clerk, signed and sealed by
the Reeve. Carried.
Motion No. 23
Moved by Caldwell, seconded by Halfacre
Be it resolved that Council now adjourn @ 9:07 p.m. Carried.
Reev&rt{f1itr
Clerk Robert W. Small