08 08 1989 Public Minutes
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THE CORPORATION OF THE TOWNSHIP OF ORO
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SPECIAL PUBLIC MEETING
TUESDAY, AUGUST 8, 1989 @
7:15 P.M. - COUNCIL CHAMBERS
FORTY-FOURTH MEETING 1988-1991 COUNCIL
The following members of Council were present:
Reeve Robert E. Drury
Deputy Reeve David Caldwell
Councillor David Burton
Councillor Allan Johnson
Absent:
Councillor Alastair Crawford
Also present were:
Mr. Ron Watkin, of Ainley and Associates,
Mr. Richard Vanderzande, Planner with Ainley
and Associates, Ms. Beverly Nicholson,
Anne Harbinson, Shirley Harbinson, Scott
Elliott, Todd A. Stocks, Peter H. stocks,
Richard Leduc, Miriam Leduc, Harriet Sargeant,
Lynda Aiken, Vivian Bell, Gail Robinson, ¥',ry
Marnie Broadhurst, Peter Koltynski, Dave
Robson, Earl Robertson, Nelson Robertson,
Ted Beaton, Anita Beaton, Wm. Blizzard
Reeve Robert E. Drury chaired the meeting.
Reeve Robert E. Drury opened the meeting by explaining to
those present the purpose of this Special Public Meeting was
to introduce a proposed Official Plan Amendment under Section
17(2) of the Planning Act. The proposed Amendment will
establish a policy in the Official Plan relating to development
on unassumed and private roads.
Notice of the public meeting was placed in the Barrie Examiner
and the Orillia Packet and Times on July 19 and 22, 1989.
The Reeve then asked the Clerk if there had been any corres-
pondence received on this matter. The Clerk responded by
indicating that no correspondence had been received.
The Reeve then stated that those persons present would be
afforded the opportunity of asking questions with respect to
the proposed Official Plan Amendment.
Reeve Robert E. Drury then turned the meeting over to the
Township's Planning Consultant, Mr. Ron Watkin of Ainley and
Associates to explain the purpose and effect of the proposed
Official Plan Amendment.
tþß conclusion of Mr. Watkin's presentation, those present
were asked if they had any questions or concerns with respect
to the matter.
Shirley Harbinson:
Can your definition of an unassumed
road include a private right-of-way
which would in all other respects be
a normal road i.e. maintained in the
winter by the Township and it is 66
feet wide.
Shirley Harbinson:
If I understand what you are asking,
are you asking that if you have a
private road not assumed by the Town-
ship that is maintained by the Township
now?
They plow and grade, they do maintain
the level of the road. It is well
maintained. We paid for that.
Ron Watkin:
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Ron Watkin:
You paid for them to do the plowing.
That, as far as I'm concerned falls
under the Private Road aspect and
would be part and parcel of this policy.
The policy that we have right now the
policy that we are looking at is to allow
basically an existing lot within a private
road to develop. Right now an existing
lot under the policies can not because
you don't front on an approved public
street. The aspects of dividing a lot
within an area is not covered by this
policy it doesn't allow that to take
place.
Shirley Harbinson:
You mean you can't sever a lot on a
private road.
Ron Watkin:
In the policy that we are proposing
right now you wouldn't be allowed to
sever a lot. The aspect of this policy
is to provide some relief to those persons
owning property on private or unassumed
road to give them the right to put a house
on that property but not to further
develop it. Thatls what this policy does.
It's not a development policy really it's
more a proposal to allow for those people
to have the right to build on their land.
Gail Robinson:
I was just wondering on the four items
I jotted down quickly on number three and
four, I didn't quite understand.
Ron Watkin
Number three which you refer to is that
the owner would acknowledge and agree that
the Township will not take over or assume
the road. The next one is the reverse
saying that the owner agrees and
not to request the Township to do that.
Gail Robinson:
Even if it is brought up to standard?
Ron Watkin:
Not at all. If I read it fully to you
I think you will understand. The owner
acknowledges and agrees not to request
the Township to assume or take over the
said part of the road or street contrary
to the policy set forth in a preceeding
paragraph C.
Ga 1 Robinson:
If the road is brought up to standard
then it can be assumed by the Township.
Ron Watkin:
Yes
Gail Robinson:
I missed number six.
Ron Watkin:
That is the agreement shall be at the
expense of the owner, to be registered
on the title. What we are asking here
is that the issue is to be able to
build on a lot on a private or unassumed
road. We have to enter into an acknow-
ledgement or agreement to meet those
six criteria or five criteria but what
we're saying is that that agreement
would then be registered on Title so
that if you for examplehâd a lot, you
were allowed to build there, you entered
into that agreement and that agreement
would be registered on the title of the
land, so that if you sold to another
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plowing, grading, etc. and charging
back to the people on the roads, we have
discussed it and we are looking firmly
at putting policy in place not to do
that any more, let private individual
contractors do it because when we are
in there plowing private driveways we
are in fact taking away from the service
of other people in the Township, so I
think before long this Township in my
opinion shouldn't be in plowing these
unassumed private roads, I'm not sure
how Council feels on it we haven't
discussed it thoroughly yet but we
will be in the future, it is no diff-
erent than someone havinga mile long
driveway and maintaining it themselves.
Gail Robinson:
I wanted to know if you are any closer
to having an idea if you have a lot if
a building permit can be issued if you
have Health Unit inspection and every-
thing done.
Ron Watkin:
I would suspect that this Amendment
would go through fairly quickly, it is
one that has been approved in other
areas so it is not the type that should
take the Ministry a great deal of time.
And that's maybe presupposing too much.
Gail Robinson:
Is thereany way the Township could ask
them to quickly put it through?
Ron Watkin:
We've tried it a lot. The amendment
would go down obviously as soon as
Council approved it, once Council
gives approval to the amendment, you
have 15 days that it must be submitted
to the Ministry, normally the Council
does not appove the Amendment on the
same night that the Public Meeting is
on so on that assumption the Amendment
could take I guess two weeks from
tonight.
Robert Small:
There will not be another Council meeting
until the 5th of September.
Ron Watkin:
On approval that night it would be 15
days that it would have to be submitted
to the Ministry and I would hope that
they would have it done in three months.
The Reeve in closing the meeting, thanked those in attendance
for their participation and stated that Council would give
considerations of all matters before reaching a decision. If
anyone wished to be notified of the passing of the proposed
By-law, they should leave their name and address with the Clerk.
MOTION NO.1
Moved by Burton, seconded by Johnson
Reev&t ~
Be it resolved that we do now adjourn this Special Public
Meeting @7:35 P.M. Carried.
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